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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.04.15 13:15:00 -
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Naomi Anthar wrote:Viribus wrote:Cheekything wrote:I still think the Vindicator needs some separation from the Megathron Navy Issue in terms of roles they both seem to fit the same job but the Navy Mega at the current moment does it a bit better.
But it's nice to see the range has been made better that helps it being more useful for PVP and not just PVE.
Maybe increase the range a bit for for sniping.
aahahahah what the hell is this guy even talking about He clearly belongs to actually not that small (as we can see in Vigilant/daredevil balance passes) group of people who think serpentis ships are garbage and get owned by t1 basic hulls. They won't give up until DD will have 500% small hybrid damage bonus - because 200% clearly does not make it good. With Vigilant something to get like 15 effective turrets. And with Vindi ... yeah serpentis clearly underpowered unless you can break 2000 dps barrier with it.
I saw a Vigilant once in Black Rise
but then it died
happy end
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.04.16 09:49:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:Garak n00biachi wrote:That Mach buff makes no sense at all....this dev fell for the powercreep trap like many developers have fallen to it before him. While Rattlesnake loses more things than it gains and gets gimped on top of it all. 5 drones are better than 2. Just give us an extra mid slot on the Rattlesnake and the current 400m3 drone bay on a BATTLESHIP we trained for and you won't be shitting on your customers.
customership as an argument to ship balancing
you must be american
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.04.23 15:56:00 -
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So last 60 pages are just failsec bears going boo boo about their L4 derpmobiles and nobody sane has any real complaints-
looks like this round of rebalancing was well done. |
King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 09:43:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:I am putting this in here once, in bold, in caps, so it does not get skimmed over in a post with other info.
CCP RISE. "The same as before but with fewer drones" does not constitute a role bonus.
Please provide a role bonus.
Rattlesnake has a role bonus
Role Bonus:
275% bonus to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints (was 50% bonus to Cruise missile and Torpedo max velocity)
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 10:05:00 -
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Can't you read? Rattlesnake's role bonus is 275% to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints.
a) the drone damage defines it's role
b) while it has the same number of effective drones, this update gives it a higher bonus to drone HP
= you are wrong both in claiming that it does not not have a role bonus, and that is the same as before
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:12:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:Can't you read? Rattlesnake's role bonus is 275% to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints.
a) the drone damage defines it's role
b) while it has the same number of effective drones, this update gives it a higher bonus to drone HP
= you are wrong both in claiming that it does not not have a role bonus, and that is the same as before
Ok exactly the same is exactly the same so it is a role bonus. Because that is what it says. The HP is also the same as 5 drones total HP, or so close I do not give a damn. Calling it a role bonus is a falsehood, a lie, a deception. Or simply an error or an oversight? Again I do not care which. I ask for it to be corrected. And I am suggesting possibilities. Not going to discuss how many angels one can put on the head of a pin either. Either a troll or someone who wishes to discuss semantics and minutia. Not interested in doing this on a feedback thread to fill it full of meaningless posts. Why not try some feedback or suggestions instead?
It's not a falsehood, lie, deception, error or an oversight, it's a role bonus that is unique among all ships of EVE. We don't care if you disagree with the term "role bonus", it is a role bonus and that's all there is to it.
Feedback- excellent job, balance team, pirate faction rebalances look great except for the PG nerf on Vigilant, which wasn't really necessary. Pirate battleships look perfect, Rattlesnake included. It actually looks like viable ship at last, which is already reflected on it's market price.
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 11:39:00 -
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Daichi Yamato wrote:what does the super drone bonus do to drone shield recharge??
Recharge amount per second increases as total HP increases but recharge time stays the same.
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:32:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I am tired with this ridiculous desire to prove black is white.
Maybe you should stop then, because black is actually black.
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 12:42:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:
I am tired with this ridiculous desire to prove black is white.
Maybe you should stop then, because black is actually black. If you truly believe that, I believe the bonus room is under new management........ Sounds legit? If however it is a troll, well you should be pleased, you got a reply.
Legit sounding new bonus room management? wtf are you even talking about? Black is not black?
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 13:17:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:
So saying that that Is it's role bonus is that, and made so deliberately, would imply that CCP believe that it's players are both Gullible and stupid.
So you seem to believe that CCP scam is best scam?
If not, I believe the bonus room still exists, visit it and have your credibility meter reset.
Your confusion must stem from the fact that you hold some strange, personal definition of "role bonus".
Maybe this helps:
Rattlesnake role bonus = does tons of damage with drones
Vindicator role bonus = does tons of damage with hybrid guns
Nightmare role bonus = does tons of damage with lasers
Machariel role bonus = does tons of damage with projectiles
Bhaalgorn role bonus = does some damage with lasers
Note that literally nothing was changed about Vindicator's role bonus, not even the letters in the description- by your logic this would mean that "it doesn't have a role bonus since it didn't get more dps than before."
However, black is still black and I still don't know wtf your "bonus room" or confused ramblings have to do with anything here.
If you have something to say about this rebalance, stick to the topic and stop trolling. |
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.05 14:22:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:King Fu Hostile wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:
So saying that that Is it's role bonus is that, and made so deliberately, would imply that CCP believe that it's players are both Gullible and stupid.
So you seem to believe that CCP scam is best scam?
If not, I believe the bonus room still exists, visit it and have your credibility meter reset.
Your confusion must stem from the fact that you hold some strange, personal definition of "role bonus". Maybe this helps: Rattlesnake role bonus = does tons of damage with drones Vindicator role bonus = does tons of damage with hybrid guns Nightmare role bonus = does tons of damage with lasers Machariel role bonus = does tons of damage with projectiles Bhaalgorn role bonus = does some damage with lasers Note that literally nothing was changed about Vindicator's role bonus, not even the letters in the description- by your logic this would mean that "it doesn't have a role bonus since it didn't get more dps than before." However, black is still black and I still don't know wtf your "bonus room" or confused ramblings have to do with anything here. If you have something to say about this rebalance, stick to the topic and stop trolling. Well it has been pointed out that the role bonus has been removed. Drone bandwidth was reduced to 50 to ensure that overall drones in use in space were reduced to ease server load. The figures for heavy and light drones were rebalanced to ensure there was not a critical reduction in DPS and survivability. Somehow that got called a role bonus and a normal role bonus was not applied. Players (myself included) pointed out this issue, and said that they hoped it was not a mistake and CCP were not taking people for fools deliberately. Some people do not see that and believe that just the same is a role bonus they should be grateful for. Nothing more to say.
No, it has not been pointed out, Rattlesnake still has three hull bonuses like every other pirate faction ship. One from Gallente BS, One from Caldari BS and a third bonus, which is called Role Bonus. As you can see from the list above, every pirate BS gets a damage bonus as their role bonus. The drone damage and hitpoint bonus of the Snake is therefore exactly "normal" in the strict meaning of the word.
There is no issue, Rattlesnake has a role bonus, it's exactly like all the other pirate BSes in this regard and that's it.
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King Fu Hostile
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Posted - 2014.05.08 10:53:00 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:baltec1 wrote:nahjustwarpin wrote:epicurus ataraxia wrote:Ok reworded to make it cleaner.
So how about this.
RATTLESNAKE
Gallente Battleship Bonus:
10% bonus to drone damage, tracking,speed and hitpoints
Caldari Battleship Bonus:
4% bonus to all shield resistances
Role Bonus:
50% bonus to kinetic and thermal missile damage. (Was 50% bonus to Cruise missile and Torpedo max velocity)
Ship Rebalance bonus
275% bonus to heavy and sentry drone damage and hitpoints.
(Note 50mbps bandwidth overall damage unchanged)
Slot layout: 6H, 7M, 6L; 0 turrets, 5 launchers(+1)
Fittings: 10000 PWG, 710 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 12750 / 8940(-358) / 9960
Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 5350(+38) / 1154000ms / 4.59
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 94 / .128 / 99300000 / 18.45s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-75) / 200(-200)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 100 / 7
Sensor strength: 30
Signature radius: 450(-10)
Clearer? do you realize that thing has almost 1890 dps and double bonus to drone hp (50% more hp on top of what is in role bonus) We already shot this idea down many times. Not only do we have what you pointed out but we also have a ship that will instakill frigates gangs, crush any cruiser in a matter of seconds and still be able to take on battleships it meets. He has been told dosens of times that what he wants is simply far too overpowered. I would rather believe the words from CCP rise's own mouth than the repeated claims of a random forum poster. Maybe if he listened to what was said then he may revise his absolute certainty that he has an intimate understanding of their intentions.
There's no way the Rattlesnake would get an extra bonus over other ships just because you want it (yes, that's the only reason you have brought up in your 2183 posts in this thread. Just forget it.
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